This is the third time I’ve came across this short dialogue, and I know that many of you had received or read this story before. It’s about an atheist professor questioning his student on God and get defeated in the end. Take some time to read it, and think about it.
An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.
He asks one of his new Christian students to stand and…..
Professor: You are a Christian, aren’t you, son?
Student : Yes, sir.
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Prof: Is God good?
Student : Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student : Yes.
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn’t. How is this God good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)
Prof: You can’t answer, can you? Let’s start again, young fella. Is God good?
Student :Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student : No.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student : From… God.
Prof: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student : Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student :Yes.
Prof: So who created evil?
(Student does not answer.)
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?
Student :Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them?
(Student has no answer.)
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son… Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student : No , sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever
had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student : Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science say your GOD
doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof: Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student : No sir. There isn’t.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white
heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?
Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light… But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it’s called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument
is going.)
Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
(The class is in uproar.)
Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it?….. No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)
Prof: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.
Student : That is it sir… The link between man & god is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive.
It turned out later that this student was Albert Einstein.
Surely, to most stern believers of God and creationists, this fictitious story may be what they wanted to refute atheism. Well, live on your dreams. I’ll point out the falsehood of the whole thing.
Firstly, the author had surely been trying hard to distort science and the professor by saying that “science has disproved God”. The truth is, science never disproved God, and will not be able to, given his omnipotence property. And since he is omnipotent, thus its existence is not perceivable by our perceptions, and science can only state that “there’s no measurable evidence or observation to prove or disprove God’s existence”.
Secondly, the author is arguing that love does not subscribe to the premise of duality. I have to make this clear here: the principal of duality applies on all adjectives, and now particles (anti-matter). But it does not imply upon energy or any noun. Heat and light is energy, and the bottom limit for them is absence of them. The absence of heat we call it cold, which could hit -459.67 Fahrenheit in maximum. There’s no opposite of energy. Energy is a noun. Similarly, there’s no great darkness, more darkness, or extreme darkness. Its absolute is only zero brightness.
Also, death is NOT the absence of life. The student got it very wrongly. You can’t say that a book is dead becase it has no life. Similarly, you can’t say that a living creature is the opposite of a dead animal. By the way, love is the opposite of evil, and the absence of love is not evil. Love is love, evil is evil, never link up both. (Also, ‘good’ and ‘bad’ are more appropriate words to use here.) The absence of ‘goodness’, equals the absence of ‘badness’, too. View it as a spectrum (from good to bad): Best, better, good, neutral, bad, worse, worst. The absence of ‘goodness’ is just the same as the absence of ‘badness’. It’s neutral. In the absence of goodness, a person won’t do anything to help others, but also don’t conduct bad deeds. This is not bad. In contrast, the presence of badness will drive a person to harm others- and that’s bad, different from the absence of goodness. According to theists’ beliefs, God created everything, included evil.(badness) Isn’t that absurd? God is loving isn’t it? Then why he created Satan? (or, ‘the fallen angel’?) Why not he destroy Satan? He’s omnipotent, and he can do whatever he wants!
I’m making a point here:
1. God is omnipotent.
2. God is loving.
3. Satan exists.
4. Satan is evil.
5. An omnipotent and loving God will sure, obliterate Satan.
6. But He didn’t.
7. Thus, isn’t it suspecting for an existing/loving God?
Thirdly, theists completely rely upon faith for God’s existence- regardless of the fact that we couldn’t perceive God. (therefore reducing the possibility that there is a God) Faith, in other word, is “blind-belief”, or a “belief without credibility”.
The definition of ‘faith’ by Oxford dictionary is:
1) Trust; strong belief; unquestioning confidence in something.
2) Strong belief, without proof, in God or in an established religion.
The meaning of “faith” form Answers.com,
2) Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.
5) The body of dogma of a religion.
Using your rational mind, does it seems to make sense in believing something without evidence or proof, or something of a minute possibility?
Fourthly, the student does not seem to understand the evolution of humans at all. Evolution theory only states that humans, apes, chimpanzees, and monkeys shared common ancestors. Creationists often use this rationalization to dispute the evolution theory: “Evolution is just a theory, not fact,” or, “no one has ever seen the process of evolution.” (Absolutely wrong, as humans already seen microorganisms evolved into antibiotic-resistant killers or more complex subspecies.) Moreover, A theory is not a mere hypothesis, (in fact, even a hypothesis should be based on rational mind, thus I consider the existence of God NOT as a hypothesis but just a wild guess) I quote Chang Yang for this:
In science, a theory being a theory doesn’t mean that it’s just a wild guess,
a hypothesis or a preliminary model. The word “theory” in science comes
with a great weight. It is very different from the meaning when I say
“I have a theory that explains Eric’s behaviour”. In this example, the word
“theory” simply means “an educated guess”.
However, in biology, I can’t simply guess why dragonflies have four wings,
and name it “the theory of dragonfly wings” and put it up in Wikipedia. Without
substantiation (agreement of other people), evidence (empirical proof),
rationale (the “logic”), successful application (being able to predict future
events with the theory) and so on, a guess is not a theory in science.
It is true that evolution cannot be fully proved. However, many people don’t
know that it is never meant to be fully proved. You can’t prove
any scientific theory. Nobody can name a scientific theory that has been
“proved”. A theory, is an explanation of how things work, is based on thousands,
if not millions of validation, and is always falsifiable. While
a theory is the current best human explanation of an event, it is always open to
falsification, if you can find a counter-proof. However, just because a theory
cannot be proved, doesn’t mean that everyone should take it with a pinch of
salt. The cell theory, theory of gravitation, kinetic theory of gas etc are all
theories, but nobody has ever said “hey, don’t take them seriously, they are
only theories”.
All theories have been used in practice, have been shown to work, have yet to
fail, and have predicted events perfectly. But we can never say “the theory of
gravitation” has been proved. How do we know whether it’s true that every mass
always comes with a gravitation force which attracts every other mass in this
universe with a force according to the product of the mass and the inverse
square of their distance? It can also be due to other reasons… For example, it
can also be some invisible super-power who’s pulling every single particle
towards each other in the universe. So we can never prove “the theory of
gravitation” perfectly, because how do we rule out the existence of such a super
power?
Fiftly, I think that the student’s last point is really fatuous. The professor’s brain can be shown by MRI scan, PET scan, CT scan, and many other procedures. (you can imagine a person’s head got crushed during an accident- and you see the person’s brain- although it is really disgusting) His brain exists according to the empirical, testable, and demonstrable protocol. Perhaps the student never learned nor understood science.
It’s very disappointing everytime theists try to distort science in order to establish their beliefs. How arrogant and irrational.
*Let me make myself clear here: The sentence “It’s very disappointing everytime theists try to distort science in order to establish their beliefs.” refers only to those who tried to distort science, but not the others. And also, if you may want to discuss this issue, do it in a more civilized way, maturely, intellectually. By the way, Albert Einstein is NOT a theist for sure.
*This straw man argument(an informal fallacy based on misinterpretation of opponent’s position) was set up by the author, and he continues to disprove it, much like placing the target in the path of an arrow.
*Also, it is impossible for a physics lecturer to fall for the ‘heat and cold’ thing. I quote Shou Farn: “I doubt a professor of physics would fall for that heat and cold thing either. Thats a pitfall for first year undergraduates. (I know, I have been there). The person who first wrote this email just set up a strawman version of science he wants to disprove, then goes on to disprove it. Silliness in digital form,” “Like I said, a strawman version of science and their lecturers are set up. It does not reflect reality at all.”